Telekinesis Pack?

[Baelin Raddyx]

I was discussing this with Simus the otherday-game mechanics greatly cripples our actions when it comes to Force powers we know but the xp system prevents us from using.

For example, all of Baelin's telekinetic abilities are (rp-wise) at level two at least, and because of mechanics he must be emped (when there is a knight on that would do it) to use powers he already knows.

Would it be possible to combine Force power purchases for things that are linked such as telekinesis purchases? I wouldn't make this a default option, but rather toggleable by a padawan's Master depending on his skill level with Telekinesis. Further, could it be implemented in a way that wouldn't affect XP amounts (so it wouldn't throw the level system out of wack)??

[Aslyn Denethorn]

Absolutely not going to agree with that one.

[Vantus]

because of mechanics he must be emped (when there is a knight on that would do it) to use powers he already knows.

I wouldn't make this a default option, but rather toggleable by a padawan's Master

Aren't these the EXACT same things only worded differently?

I don't see what benefit this would have.

If you're RPing having more abilities than you can actually perform, then I'd say it's a sure sign that you need to slooow things down a bit or get to practicing more in character to merit receiving XP to boost these RP'd skills. That is, if performing them as a game mechanic is really what you want.
This suggestion is kind of like asking for dessert before you've had your dinner.

Slow and steady wins the race and all that.

[Zeak Dystiny]

Why not just save up for them?

[Azrael]

Absolutely not going to agree with that one.

[Nira'kalen'nuruodo]

It sounds to me like the system isn't actually broken, you're just letting yourself become a slave to the system instead of making it work for you.

Some of your options:

• Save up your XP,
• Speak very nicely to your Master about tweaking your template so it reflects your character's strengths,
• Do a heck of a lot more action-ing.

[Tomoran]

Absolutely not going to agree with that one.

[Sasha Raven]

I'm not on board with this.

[Mortael Toronous]

Absolutely not going to agree with that one.

I believe that having push/pull/hold combined would make the system worse. As everybody would be throwing people around using hold and abusing the powers much more often. Push is perhaps the most basic of them all and pull takes slightly more concentration and hold is advanced; I reckon. Also, it would ruin the aspect of learning the powers and having this nice feeling that one day you'll learn to use them. Other than getting them instantly and just ruining the sense of reward.

[Tomoran]

It's not an issue of abuse.

Not at all.

Your template dictates your roleplay.

Not the other way around.

If I only have mind trick one, I can't dominate the minds of individuals or hide in the Force.

If I have Jump one, I can't clear a 75 foot gap in a single leap.

If I have push 1, I can't throw a room full of jerks onto their backsides.

Which isn't to say that individuals are confined within their template. Many of us have 'roleplay' powers that aren't governed by the mechanics of the game and are acted out. These powers are often ancillary, non-combat oriented powers that give our characters flavor.

Not an excuse to make us exceptionally strong or promote us far beyond what our capacity would be according to our training and/or template.

[Aurien Uriah]

It's not an issue of abuse.

Not at all.

Your template dictates your roleplay.

Not the other way around.

If I only have mind trick one, I can't dominate the minds of individuals or hide in the Force.

If I have Jump one, I can't clear a 75 foot gap in a single leap.

If I have push 1, I can't throw a room full of jerks onto their backsides.

Which isn't to say that individuals are confined within their template. Many of us have 'roleplay' powers that aren't governed by the mechanics of the game and are acted out. These powers are often ancillary, non-combat oriented powers that give our characters flavor.

Not an excuse to make us exceptionally strong or promote us far beyond what our capacity would be according to our training and/or template.

I agree with most of that.

It's cool if you just want to Role play your template, but if you'd be happy with Role playing a template, then maybe you should stick with pen and paper Role Play like D&D. I don't see the point in having a template if you are going to ignore it and say you have an "invisible force field" or little Jimmy didn't tag you because your on base. People need to work on short comings more. Seems like everyone is focused on strengths. EVERYONE makes mistakes. That's my two cents though.

[Vantus]

People need to work on short comings more. Seems like everyone is focused on strengths. EVERYONE makes mistakes.

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+10 points.

[Tomoran]

It's not an issue of abuse.

Not at all.

Your template dictates your roleplay.

Not the other way around.

If I only have mind trick one, I can't dominate the minds of individuals or hide in the Force.

If I have Jump one, I can't clear a 75 foot gap in a single leap.

If I have push 1, I can't throw a room full of jerks onto their backsides.

Which isn't to say that individuals are confined within their template. Many of us have 'roleplay' powers that aren't governed by the mechanics of the game and are acted out. These powers are often ancillary, non-combat oriented powers that give our characters flavor.

Not an excuse to make us exceptionally strong or promote us far beyond what our capacity would be according to our training and/or template.

I agree with most of that.

It's cool if you just want to Role play your template, but if you'd be happy with Role playing a template, then maybe you should stick with pen and paper Role Play like D&D. I don't see the point in having a template if you are going to ignore it and say you have an "invisible force field" or little Jimmy didn't tag you because your on base. People need to work on short comings more. Seems like everyone is focused on strengths. EVERYONE makes mistakes. That's my two cents though.

I don't see where I advocated only using a template and/or not promoting character weaknesses.

[Aurien Uriah]

Me either. Notice there's an extra line separating the two trains of thought.

[Tomoran]

I figured the 'agree with most of that' segued into the next part. No matter.

Character Flaws are important. Without them, you can't relate to the individuals and they become boring.