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[Weapons] Lightsaber Lengths

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:56 am
by Zander-Bo Umra
There's a topic with the same title, but my suggestion is a different one. As I was talking to one of the larger members of our community, I came on the idea to standardize the eventual lightsaber blades of members relative to their model size.

JKA's standard model scale for multiplayer is set at 100, and saber length at 40. My suggestion is that we take this 40/100 ratio and have it standard apply to lightsabers which students and/or teachers request for the weapon pack, enforced by the person maintaining the pack at the time. Someone with a model scale of 90 would end up with a saber scale of 36. Someone with a model scale of 110 would then end up with a saber scale of 44. When confronted with fractional numbers, we could opt to round it up above ,5 and down below ,5. Still, no min-maxing. :wink:

I sincerely believe that this would add to the game stability, while also remaining true to reason. I think it's logical that you wouldn't choose to take on an unoptimized lightsaber length when you build your lightsaber, as it is realistically scaled to your ratio, and I would believe has been for a while through research of countless millennia.
An exception is the dual-phase option that Kenta has, for example. This one is scaled to 55, being a 1.25 multiplayer to the base 40.

Kenta's model scale: 108% --> 40/100 * 108 = 43.2 --> 43 saber length.
His extended saber length could be adjusted to either the rounded-off number or the unrounded number --> 43.2 * 1.25 = 54 <- Exactly, which actually would make it ideal.

I'd really like to hear what others think about this, because we can't doubt that Yoda had a significantly shorter lightsaber, simply because it wasn't a viable option. That's why I think this ratio should reflect in-game.


NOTE: It's of course not feasible to update the weapons pack every time someone figures he's due for a model increase. Rather model size increase should be planned ahead and transmitted to the maintainer long enough in advance.

Re: [Weapons] Lightsaber Lengths

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:23 pm
by Keth Flynn
I agree, I really like the idea. It solves the issue of the younglings having a short saber after model scaling.

Re: [Weapons] Lightsaber Lengths

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:10 pm
by Jago Mirax
Yup.

Re: [Weapons] Lightsaber Lengths

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:11 pm
by Zander-Bo Umra
Keth Flynn wrote:I agree, I really like the idea. It solves the issue of the younglings having a short saber after model scaling.
Well, it's mostly pertaining to older students when they've made their own saber, as I said. I don't think it's possible to have saber length automatically adjust depending on model scale, but I'd have to look at Soh for that. As of now these things are determined by values in the .sab files of the particular member's hilts.

Re: [Weapons] Lightsaber Lengths

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:18 pm
by Nico Keztor
Seems like a nice idea.
Support.

Re: [Weapons] Lightsaber Lengths

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:38 pm
by Delmi N'jork
Saber lengths can be changed very easily via the .sab files. It's literally a single line of code and takes less than thirty second. It's a very simple task and would probably be easier than doing coding for the mod. If there's enough demand for it, I don't have any problem updating the pack more frequently.

Re: [Weapons] Lightsaber Lengths

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 5:45 pm
by Arven Silaan
love it.

Re: [Weapons] Lightsaber Lengths

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:14 am
by Jerex Sol
Seems legit. +1

Re: [Weapons] Lightsaber Lengths

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:27 am
by Kieran Orion
Greatly approve!

Your added efforts would be much appreciated, Delmi!

Re: [Weapons] Lightsaber Lengths

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:20 pm
by Maia Rimora
I think it'd make a nice addition! +1

Re: [Weapons] Lightsaber Lengths

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:23 pm
by Virtuo Alegan
I agree, some might want a blade more scaled to their height than the usual 28 length for shoto blades.

Re: [Weapons] Lightsaber Lengths

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:44 am
by Silas Vir'n
Agreeee.

Re: [Weapons] Lightsaber Lengths

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:57 am
by Niko Inaru
Yes pls.

Re: [Weapons] Lightsaber Lengths

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:31 pm
by Duncan Therin
Highly support this, +1 from me.

Re: [Weapons] Lightsaber Lengths

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:35 pm
by Galen Sol
What a terrible idea.

I support it.
But the only issue that comes to my mind is striking range for people, some people will have longer striking ranges, (AKA taller characters) making it easier for them to strike and harder to be struck.

Now, I didn't mention this to be a BIG problem, and it might just be a marginal thing, so I'm open to other perspectives on it. I really shouldn't even mention this given that Galen should top out at 105-106%, but if there is an issue I think should be brought to the table, I'll present it.

I still support the idea though, don't get me wrong.