JEDI Comport

Hey there,

I've recently gotten around to understanding the mechanics of Telepathy in-game, and much to my surprise, there wasn't a message mode for it, unlike those for \comm, \tell, \me etc, which would give it the appropriate formatting, instead of requiring us to do \tell <person> ^5 every time we want to send an appropriate message (since that can be a little annoying, in honesty!).

So, what I wanted to suggest was an independent message mode for Telepathy that would combine the \tell command with the appropriate colouration, or perhaps operate in an entirely different way that would be suitable for telepathy (for example, the way text can appear in the middle of your screen as part of an action - given that telepathy operates as an external form of communication that affects the mind at the level of imagery/empathic/verbal, this might be suitable).

It's literally a convenience thing, more than anything else - it's nice to be able to press a single button when bound to the appropriate message mode and contact someone. You can do it with the standard \tell command, so it'd be nice to have a similar one for telepathic communication, too.

Thoughts?

On one hand, it's just 2 buttons that you need to press, 3 if you count the Shift key. On the other, though, it would be a little more convenient, especially for those of us who use telepathy quite a bit (like me).

Could we just modify the bond chat mode a little so that "telepathy mode" is on a seperate message mode (instead of having to switch from teamchat to clanchat to telepathy to bond and so on) and have it send to the target, like /tell does?

So the command would be:
/telepathy [name] [message]

Rather than:
/tell [name] [message + ^5]

Right?
Personally, I don't have an issue with using the current method, in fact I would most likely have an issue converting to the possible new method.
I also have to question the validity of it. Telepathy shouldn't be used that often, it's much like the idea of not using the Force for simple tasks, its overkill.

Alkur Tekeil wrote:So the command would be:
/telepathy [name] [message]

Rather than:
/tell [name] [message + ^5]

Right?
Personally, I don't have an issue with using the current method, in fact I would most likely have an issue converting to the possible new method.
I also have to question the validity of it. Telepathy shouldn't be used that often, it's much like the idea of not using the Force for simple tasks, its overkill.

Nice idea but i'm with Alkur on this one. It actually seems simpler to use the current method, IMO. I wouldn't stand up and say no to a new method... I just don't think it's necessary...

But the difference is this: binds. With \tell, you can bind it to a key, look at your target, press it and type your message. Et voila. If possible, it'd be nice to do the same with telepathy.

Not a bad idea. But not worth Soh's time imo.

I'm not sure it requires a major change in RPMod mechanics - from what I can tell, it only needs a simple command alteration on the server. Shouldn't take more than ten minutes, at most.

...I dislike telepathy and it's use honestly. It's RP, say it out loud. It keeps the ball rolling. Anything else is really just a PM. Not to mention, this is a way to take the abusing we all knows most likely goes on in PM's to an IC level. It would be abused.

And Moza, you may complain about this all you like. :p

I'm gonna admit this idea doesn't look that good to me

/tell <player> ^5<message> works fine, there's no reason to change it.

What you suggest is already implemented in Force Bonds, with the "/say_bond <message>" command or "/say_team_mode bond" and the team chat key.

Any use outside the Force Bond can be done simply with "/tell <player> ^5<message>" as you know, and shouldn't be used very often.

Aslyn wrote:But the difference is this: binds. With \tell, you can bind it to a key, look at your target, press it and type your message. Et voila. If possible, it'd be nice to do the same with telepathy.

Not exactly. It's not /tell that you are binding to a key, it's /messagemode3, which is an Engine command (i.e. outside the game module and not modifiable) that makes the "Say: " line appear at the top of the screen.
For new chat channels like admin, bond, clan and comm, the /say_team_mode command must be used before pressing the team chat key (/messagemode2), as I can't add new /messagemode commands. Now there could be ways to emulate it with the UI, but it's a lot of work.

Meanwhile, if you are close enough to be able to target the person, why use telepathy instead of normal chat? as Alkur said, "it's much like the idea of not using the Force for simple tasks, its overkill"

Well, not everything can be spoken outloud, for one, and if it's IC, PMing is inappropriate. But that's fine. Thank you anyway.

Iverian Prey wrote:...I dislike telepathy and it's use honestly. It's RP, say it out loud. It keeps the ball rolling. Anything else is really just a PM. Not to mention, this is a way to take the abusing we all knows most likely goes on in PM's to an IC level. It would be abused.

And Moza, you may complain about this all you like. :p

The only abuse ive seen is from you. Anyways, ive seen Padawans, and some initates use telepathy 1) to prove they are learning it...that they are advanceing (i.e Aslyn ) 2)to talk to each other without saying things aloud (i.e me and kael yesterday) 3) to practice (i.e me and rash, dixo, yon)

Iverian Prey wrote:...I dislike telepathy and it's use honestly. It's RP, say it out loud.

Agree with this 100%

People come on, sit down, bubble up and "talk telepathitcally" to their friends. For 99% of the rest of us, that person is as good as AFK.

Besides, out of all the people i've recieved Telepathy messages from - Alkur is the only one that knows how to do it as it should be done. (In my opinion of course!)

Everyone else is like: "Hey how's it going, whatcha up to?"

Whereas Alkur promotes images, feelings and broken codes as telepathy.
This way your character can react publicly to the feelings he is recieving, rather than bubbling up and chatting back.

Furthermore, 2 people standing alone, side by side, nobody else around. What's the use in sending a telepathy message to them? just talk for Pete's sake!

Anyways - to make this post on topic, I believe the current mode of telepathy is just fine. If it is long-winded, cumbersome and annoying then GOOD I say! Means people will be less likely to use or rely on it.

Moza Ferorn wrote:

Iverian Prey wrote:...I dislike telepathy and it's use honestly. It's RP, say it out loud. It keeps the ball rolling. Anything else is really just a PM. Not to mention, this is a way to take the abusing we all knows most likely goes on in PM's to an IC level. It would be abused.

And Moza, you may complain about this all you like. :p

The only abuse ive seen is from you. Anyways, ive seen Padawans, and some initates use telepathy 1) to prove they are learning it...that they are advanceing (i.e Aslyn ) 2)to talk to each other without saying things aloud (i.e me and kael yesterday) 3) to practice (i.e me and rash, dixo, yon)

It was a PM. I said that that is basically how I view that. Besides, Iverian can't talk telepathically, so any reply couldn't be taken seriously.

Vantus wrote: Besides, out of all the people i've recieved Telepathy messages from - Alkur is the only one that knows how to do it as it should be done. (In my opinion of course!).

Alkur isnt the only one who does it right or well. Rash does it very nicely. We all cannot RP the same way, nor can we from our selves to do the exact same things. I have displayed images before. Youre right, its not all about talking, but not everyone talks.