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Back-handed saber

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:22 am
by Zekii Abrak
Hello there !

Since I'm a hopeful in ::JEDI:: , I've never seen a Jedi Padawan with a back-handed saber. Some persons told me that only Knights and Masters could use this stance but I think it could be more interesting if some paddies use it too :shock: ( As you can see, Ashoka Tano have this stance in the movie ) So, is it possible to add it for the Padawans ?


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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:36 am
by Ergo Stomi
Because of the limitations of the JKA combat system, back handed sabers are not allowed because without creating completely new animations, the easiest way to use one is using a modified hilt on the staff style, and staffs are not allowed for Padawans.

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:42 am
by Fane Ornn'ila
tbh backhand sabers hold 0 advantage other than the 'look at fancy me'. it lowers your defence alot and halves your offensive capabilites.. you're better off without it.

p.s might wanna make your ava smaller, stretches page.

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:43 am
by Zeak Dystiny
Also... Clone Wars 3D.... ehh for ideas and reference in my opinion. I just think they had her use it because it's 'cool' and appeals to the kiddies.

p.s. your avatar is horrifyingly large.

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:45 am
by Nivek Tholmai

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A Padawan HAS used one, and I hope it never happens again. There is a reason such things were made Knight and above only in the first place.

Furthermore, please resize your avatar to 150x150 or under, Zekii.

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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:10 am
by Cyril Feraan
Ergo Stomi wrote:Because of the limitations of the JKA combat system, back handed sabers are not allowed because without creating completely new animations, the easiest way to use one is using a modified hilt on the staff style, and staffs are not allowed for Padawans.
Nivek Tholmai wrote:A Padawan HAS used one, and I hope it never happens again. There is a reason such things were made Knight and above only in the first place.

Furthermore, please resize your avatar to 150x150 or under, Zekii.
Knights Stomi and Tholmai are correct on this policy matter.

It is generally reserved for Knights and above who have submitted their own lightsaber templates to the JEDI Weapons Pack. Since students use basic forms and basic lightsabers already designated for them, it wouldn't be appropriate.

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:26 am
by Delmi N'jork
Whether or not it's allowed, someone is actually making animations for a backhanded saber style, you can take a look at it on The Void if you're interested.
~Delmi

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:58 am
by Vantus
Unique styles such as backhand have become irreparably mainstream these days as is the trend to overplay a character's skills. I feel this is why JEDI have made the right decision to restrict such styles to members that have proven themselves capable.

It makes sense to me that before somebody can master a unique off-style, they must first conquer the basics. These basics are covered during a member's time as an Initiate and Padawan.

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:17 pm
by Delmi N'jork
Oh, completely agree, I was just commenting on the game side of things.

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:01 pm
by Azrael
Historically, Padawans have also used dual-sabers also (specifically refering to Komari Vosa here) but i happen to agree with the restrictions currently in place. If Padawans were open to dual-sabers/staffs then there would quickly become far too many in JEDI.

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:26 pm
by Sarrecm'ar'reccarve
Discussion aside, I don't see how this would be something for the RP-Mod suggestion board. There isn't anything special needed in the mod to allow for this, to my knowledge.

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:57 pm
by Alkur Tekeil
Back-handed "stances" are done via manipulating the .sab file for the lightsaber.

No need to reiterate the protocol, as its been done several times now.

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:29 pm
by Zekii Abrak
Ok thanks very much for your answers ! :D

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:59 pm
by Aknaross Myotis
Alkur Tekeil wrote:Back-handed "stances" are done via manipulating the .sab file for the lightsaber.
And manipulating the original model too, to revert its axis, and a very annoying task I may say.