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Saber Styles
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:26 am
by Michael Lorus
I'm not sure if it is possible for the mod to add different saber styles than the basic jka ones, there are seven forms of lightsaber combat each with it's own unique characteristics. The forms are as follows.
Form I: Schii-Cho
Form II: Makashi
Form III: Soresu
Form IV: Ataru
Form V: Shien / Djem So
Form VI: Niman
Form VII: Juyo / Vaapad
If there can be anything added or remade on saber combat, it could be great. Cause it adds a slight taste of diversity in the combat RP and it's is very realistic.
Cause other than that there are the basic jka styles, blue, yellow and red, plus two special ones Tavion and Desann.
What do you think ?
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:29 am
by Garik Kelzim
I think there's a mod who has done it, not sure though. And if it's possible it would certainly be a + to the realism.
/Support
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:13 am
by Aslyn Denethorn
I wholly disagree - the Forms were always more about philosophy and approach than about specific technique. To force specific styles for the Forms would make them far less effective individually - you can practice the vast majority of the Forms using any style (Fast, Balanced, Strong), so personally, I'd prefer the system left as it is at present: all styles available, with the Forms being an RP preference, not one built into the mod itself.
That noted, the availability of more styles is always welcome, as long as they're balanced and not carrying insane damage modifiers, such as the Desann style does.
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:20 am
by Dixo Xan
Another ill-devised suggesion. If I remember correctly Soh wants to keep RMOD server sided, or something like that, meaning you don't HAVE to have RPMOD in order to join a server running it. Adding seven stances would probably violate that. Anyways, the NJO used the three stances (light/medium/heavy) as we know them from jk2/JKA, which we as well do.
At the current most JEDI members are trained in one of the seven forms, with the interpetation of which-is-what being very individual. I am in honesty opposed to this, as well, one man's makashi is another dude's Ataru. As I see it Jedi of our era would learn the three stances, sometimes developing them further into one of the seven forms. Thats just my thoughts.
I've played a mod that allows you to use all seven forms, and while its fun for the first five minutes it gets boring fast. Remember that lucasarts had many developers and spent alot of time to balance the current system out. While there are many good player mods you will find that those altering the game mechanics most often are sub-pair with the original product. Playermade mods are usually fun for a day or two, then you start realising its limitations and weaknesses compared to base JKA. I find RPmod to be a rare exception because Soh has only made very minor alterations to the saber system, whilst improving and developing force powers, etc.
There's been thousand suggestions no altering the saber system, and while the idea is interesting I remain skeptical to Soh's ability (rather willingness, and time - I imagine it would be very time consuming) to alter it, making it stand up to base JKA. As such I will *always' be the first person on the barricades, fighting suggestions regarding alteration to the saber system.
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:53 am
by Michael Lorus
Well from that point of view you may be right, we should keep the mod on server ,so that anyone who doesn't have it can enter, that way we keep recruitment up and working. I didn't know that saber style moddifications violate and make that impossible. It was just a suggestion ! I'll see what other suggestions I can find .
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:49 am
by Fane Ornn'ila
I remember a saber pack that had specific opening stances per saber that made them look like certain forms but, for the rest I agree with Aslyn.
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:52 am
by Sasha Raven
Re: Saber Styles
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:59 am
by Phillip Braden
Severus wrote:I'm not sure if it is possible for the mod to add different saber styles than the basic jka ones, there are seven forms of lightsaber combat each with it's own unique characteristics. The forms are as follows.
Form I: Schii-Cho
Form II: Makashi
Form III: Soresu
Form IV: Ataru
Form V: Shien / Djem So
Form VI: Niman
Form VII: Juyo / Vaapad
If there can be anything added or remade on saber combat, it could be great. Cause it adds a slight taste of diversity in the combat RP and it's is very realistic.
Cause other than that there are the basic jka styles, blue, yellow and red, plus two special ones Tavion and Desann.
What do you think ?
Garik you are right, OJP uses this sort of thing, I think this was suggested before.
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:06 am
by Ametha Tasia
Well, I understand it'd be cool and such, but the mod's not intended to change the base JKA combat system, as far as I know.
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:12 am
by Cyril Feraan
I agree with Aslyn and Dixo.
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:13 am
by Phillip Braden
It would take alot of implimenting and tweaking to set up the stances alone plus add animations for each stance and standing positions when in each stance.
Re: Saber Styles
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:59 am
by Imil C. Ucindus
Phillip Braden wrote:Severus wrote:I'm not sure if it is possible for the mod to add different saber styles than the basic jka ones, there are seven forms of lightsaber combat each with it's own unique characteristics. The forms are as follows.
Form I: Schii-Cho
Form II: Makashi
Form III: Soresu
Form IV: Ataru
Form V: Shien / Djem So
Form VI: Niman
Form VII: Juyo / Vaapad
If there can be anything added or remade on saber combat, it could be great. Cause it adds a slight taste of diversity in the combat RP and it's is very realistic.
Cause other than that there are the basic jka styles, blue, yellow and red, plus two special ones Tavion and Desann.
What do you think ?
Garik you are right, OJP uses this sort of thing, I think this was suggested before.
OJP is amazing. Only thing is it sucks against blasters and most other weaponry so it would really bomb in JEDI. If it was HUGELY modified I bet even the longtime members would agree to implement the mod. I was hooked on OJP for about a year. I love it. BUt trust me once/if you get into JEDI one of your least concerns will be the combat, and you'll understand where Dixo and Aslyn are coming from.
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:02 am
by Michael Lorus
Well if not new saber styles , how about some saber stances ? As in if you press gloat or taunt you get into a saber stance.
For example like Obi-Wan in Revenge of the sith when he dueled General Grievous he got into a stance before he engaged.
Here's a photo :

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:05 am
by Tomoran
It's possible to change your idle stance through the .sab when you get your own saber.
I don't think the mod needs to support this.
/t-down
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:07 am
by Phillip Braden
Severus wrote:Well if not new saber styles , how about some saber stances ? As in if you press gloat or taunt you get into a saber stance.
For example like Obi-Wan in Revenge of the sith when he dueled General Grievous he got into a stance before he engaged.
Here's a photo :

Thats how Juyo looks on OJP, Shii-cho looks like red, Djem so like red but slightly lower, Soresu as blue, Niman/staff as staff, Ataru/Duals as duals Makashi like dooku holds his blade out infront of him.