Ledge Grab

Blavek Araven · Post by **Blavek Araven** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:13 pm

This is something that popped into my head recently after doing some jumping exercises with Blavek. I realized you can jump and grab onto the edge of a wall, or stone, or tree, and always hang on. I was thinking, that depending on how much force you have in your force pool, would depend on how long you held onto that ledge, or whether you just didn't grab on at all.

So for example, Blavek jumps with say 50 points in his force pool, and they are drained as he jumps, he misses his target but grabs the edge. Unfortunately he only has 10 point's in his force pool, which results in him falling from the ledge. Just an example.

I believe this could make it more realistic in the way of what you see on movies when people hang on to cliffs for dear life after missing the jump and sometimes fall and sometimes don't ^_^.

Anyway just an idea and I hope I explained it clearly.

Larth Tendus · Post by **Larth Tendus** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:25 pm

That's a good ideea, Blavek. It would increase realism IMO, would be nice if that was implemented

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Vantus · Post by **Vantus** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:34 pm

I think (Although it is very Realistic and Logical!) that this would end up dampening or spoiling the game aspect of JKA.

With so many suggestions being added to RPMod which take away from the gaming side as sacrifice for realism, this is one of the features that I feel should slip through Soh's fingers.

The need to remain grabbed onto a ledge pops up a lot in RP.

I often type a mesage as I am hanging. Maybe something along the lines of :: Barely grabs on with his fingertips but manages to pull himself up ::

Or in the cases of suspense where a person is kneeling to help pull somebody up. It would be kind of crappy if you only had about 3 seconds of hangtime before dropping.

This would be very crippling to those of us with tiny Force pools. (Thanks Corinth!

) and would make it frustrating in certain circumstances such as climbing out of the Jump Pit where ledge-hanging is common.

So in short - Great idea in terms of Logic and Realism but something i'd rather not see implimented personally.

Nivek Tholmai · Post by **Nivek Tholmai** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:37 pm

Not entirely a good idea. Reasons as follows. Master Loist as an example if I may. If I recall he's a fellow Jedi Guardian, our force pools are somewhat less than yours. Master Loist is well known to be pretty huge/strong. He misses a jump, grabs on. Because he has a low force pool his character can't pull himself up when he should physcially be able to?
See my point =/ It kinda prevents certain rp aspects, you should be able to judge how long you cna hold onto things anyway. It's down to you to keep it realistic.

EDIT: Vantus's point about taking time to type as well, and other various situations ring true as well.

Blavek Araven · Post by **Blavek Araven** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:41 pm

Fair enough I appreciate your comments, and that does make sense Nivek. I'd be screwing Blavek over haha.

Larkit · Post by **Larkit** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:51 am

I never realized you had to use the Force to pull yourself up? Of course the technique used in the game is far from any realistic way of pulling yourself up from a hanging position, but that's just on the graphical part.

Also, all dependant on the type of edge, the amount of time you could hold on, would vary with up to a minute or so.

Aayla Vigil · Post by **Aayla Vigil** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:36 am

This feature should rather be RPed than forced by a mod feature.

It's good to be concerned about improving RP quality, but remember that most of this process is done by players themselves simply "doing" it. Just like we don't need to have a feature for having dinner, but we are still able to RP it, in this case as well people *should* pretend (depending on their character's physical attitude) that they lose the grip simply by pressing -down arrow- key.

Vantus · Post by **Vantus** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:27 pm

Aayla Vigil wrote:This feature should rather be RPed than forced by a mod feature.

It's good to be concerned about improving RP quality, but remember that most of this process is done by players themselves simply "doing" it. Just like we don't need to have a feature for having dinner, but we are still able to RP it, in this case as well people *should* pretend (depending on their character's physical attitude) that they lose the grip simply by pressing -down arrow- key.

That's it in a nutshell I think.

WuWei · Post by **WuWei** » Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:47 pm

While i see your point and the possible application for it just sounds like one more thing to add to the list to discourage new people and guest like myself sticking with it just for the "RP".

Syrena Exan · Post by **Syrena Exan** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:57 pm

WuWei wrote:While i see your point and the possible application for it just sounds like one more thing to add to the list to discourage new people and guest like myself sticking with it just for the "RP".

The point of our clan IS to rp. Joining our clan means being here FOR the rp, and if you're not interested in sticking with it, then this probably isnt the clan for you.

Arikakon Genkal · Post by **Arikakon Genkal** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:59 pm

On a side note, this topic's been dead for a good month now...

WuWei · Post by **WuWei** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:38 pm

Syrena Exan wrote:
WuWei wrote:While i see your point and the possible application for it just sounds like one more thing to add to the list to discourage new people and guest like myself sticking with it just for the "RP".
The point of our clan IS to rp. Joining our clan means being here FOR the rp, and if you're not interested in sticking with it, then this probably isnt the clan for you.

Don't forget your roots I seem to remember reading a higher ranking person talking about how there used to be alot more fighting/dueling than RP that there is today. Not that ether way is good or bad. Also i feel like you're attacking me with your words and acting rashly and harshly towards me don't worry I'm not here to ruin your RP so don't need to jump all over me and try to run me off. Also i feel this is a great mod and offers alot more than just RP I do enjoy alittle RP myself and may even yet feel it worth sticking with. Just it's hard for me to find the time to stay active on a server that takes 3 mins to load. While I'm a muti mmorpg player I play many games and enjoy alot of different things. I do come in peace please don't misunderstand me.

Aayla Vigil · Post by **Aayla Vigil** » Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:19 pm

No one is attacking you Wu, I believe you're just too much on defensive.
Relax and enjoy the RP, get used to it and I assure you that you'll find it alright if you take it as it comes. There are many peoples working for us, among who are included also guests and hopefuls, that makes everyday possible to have such a fun experience as the great RP we have on the server.

For how admirable it is that you have all these ideas, what most people are probably trying to tell you is to take more time berore dispensing advices and corrections to our RP system.

I personally believe that the way the Rleplay is working here is awesome as it is, and as a good habit, when something is working so well, it would be better not to point our fingers to what by a first look may seem an imperfection, because maybe in practice it isn't an imperfection at all (as for your theories of discouraging the RP for guests, that I can assure you to be unfounded).

I've been waiting for 4 months before being initiated, but again I can assure you that those 4 months were the most fun months of my online game life.

Being initiated won't change much except for having a lightsaber and a new force power every sometime, but what this period has to show you is how fun it can be to RP for its own sake, careless of experience points, spars, and force powers.

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